diff --git a/packages/payload/src/admin/components/elements/ArrayAction/index.tsx b/packages/payload/src/admin/components/elements/ArrayAction/index.tsx
index 020b2d27d..363275808 100644
--- a/packages/payload/src/admin/components/elements/ArrayAction/index.tsx
+++ b/packages/payload/src/admin/components/elements/ArrayAction/index.tsx
@@ -66,7 +66,7 @@ export const ArrayAction: React.FC<Props> = ({
                 <PopupList.Button
                   className={`${baseClass}__action ${baseClass}__add`}
                   onClick={() => {
-                    addRow(index + 1)
+                    addRow(index)
                     close()
                   }}
                 >
diff --git a/packages/payload/src/admin/components/forms/Form/buildStateFromSchema/addFieldStatePromise.ts b/packages/payload/src/admin/components/forms/Form/buildStateFromSchema/addFieldStatePromise.ts
index d465ba893..054985295 100644
--- a/packages/payload/src/admin/components/forms/Form/buildStateFromSchema/addFieldStatePromise.ts
+++ b/packages/payload/src/admin/components/forms/Form/buildStateFromSchema/addFieldStatePromise.ts
@@ -140,8 +140,8 @@ export const addFieldStatePromise = async ({
           fieldState.value = null
           fieldState.initialValue = null
         } else {
-          fieldState.value = arrayValue.length
-          fieldState.initialValue = arrayValue.length
+          fieldState.value = arrayValue
+          fieldState.initialValue = arrayValue
 
           if (arrayValue.length > 0) {
             fieldState.disableFormData = true
@@ -230,8 +230,8 @@ export const addFieldStatePromise = async ({
           fieldState.value = null
           fieldState.initialValue = null
         } else {
-          fieldState.value = blocksValue.length
-          fieldState.initialValue = blocksValue.length
+          fieldState.value = blocksValue
+          fieldState.initialValue = blocksValue
 
           if (blocksValue.length > 0) {
             fieldState.disableFormData = true
diff --git a/packages/payload/src/admin/components/forms/Form/fieldReducer.ts b/packages/payload/src/admin/components/forms/Form/fieldReducer.ts
index 17368f49a..d5f1029a1 100644
--- a/packages/payload/src/admin/components/forms/Form/fieldReducer.ts
+++ b/packages/payload/src/admin/components/forms/Form/fieldReducer.ts
@@ -123,7 +123,7 @@ export function fieldReducer(state: Fields, action: FieldAction): Fields {
           ...state[path],
           disableFormData: rows.length > 0,
           rows: rowsMetadata,
-          value: rows.length,
+          value: rows,
         },
         ...flattenRows(path, rows),
       }
@@ -136,7 +136,7 @@ export function fieldReducer(state: Fields, action: FieldAction): Fields {
 
       const rowsMetadata = [...(state[path]?.rows || [])]
       rowsMetadata.splice(
-        rowIndex + 1,
+        rowIndex,
         0,
         // new row
         {
@@ -158,7 +158,7 @@ export function fieldReducer(state: Fields, action: FieldAction): Fields {
       const { remainingFields, rows } = separateRows(path, state)
 
       // actual form state (value saved in db)
-      rows.splice(rowIndex + 1, 0, subFieldState)
+      rows.splice(rowIndex, 0, subFieldState)
 
       const newState: Fields = {
         ...remainingFields,
@@ -167,7 +167,7 @@ export function fieldReducer(state: Fields, action: FieldAction): Fields {
           ...state[path],
           disableFormData: true,
           rows: rowsMetadata,
-          value: rows.length,
+          value: rows,
         },
       }
 
@@ -205,7 +205,7 @@ export function fieldReducer(state: Fields, action: FieldAction): Fields {
           ...state[path],
           disableFormData: true,
           rows: rowsMetadata,
-          value: rows.length,
+          value: rows,
         },
       }
 
@@ -236,7 +236,7 @@ export function fieldReducer(state: Fields, action: FieldAction): Fields {
           ...state[path],
           disableFormData: true,
           rows: rowsMetadata,
-          value: rows.length,
+          value: rows,
         },
         ...flattenRows(path, rows),
       }
diff --git a/packages/payload/src/admin/components/forms/Form/index.tsx b/packages/payload/src/admin/components/forms/Form/index.tsx
index 12e5f1d3c..bb47c873b 100644
--- a/packages/payload/src/admin/components/forms/Form/index.tsx
+++ b/packages/payload/src/admin/components/forms/Form/index.tsx
@@ -463,7 +463,7 @@ const Form: React.FC<Props> = (props) => {
         dispatchFields({
           blockType: data?.blockType,
           path,
-          rowIndex: rowIndex - 1,
+          rowIndex,
           subFieldState,
           type: 'ADD_ROW',
         })
@@ -501,7 +501,7 @@ const Form: React.FC<Props> = (props) => {
         dispatchFields({
           blockType: data?.blockType,
           path,
-          rowIndex: rowIndex - 1,
+          rowIndex,
           subFieldState,
           type: 'REPLACE_ROW',
         })
diff --git a/packages/payload/src/admin/components/forms/field-types/Array/index.tsx b/packages/payload/src/admin/components/forms/field-types/Array/index.tsx
index 085315230..4a29a03c9 100644
--- a/packages/payload/src/admin/components/forms/field-types/Array/index.tsx
+++ b/packages/payload/src/admin/components/forms/field-types/Array/index.tsx
@@ -20,9 +20,9 @@ import { useForm, useFormSubmitted } from '../../Form/context'
 import { NullifyLocaleField } from '../../NullifyField'
 import useField from '../../useField'
 import withCondition from '../../withCondition'
+import { fieldBaseClass } from '../shared'
 import { ArrayRow } from './ArrayRow'
 import './index.scss'
-import { fieldBaseClass } from '../shared'
 
 const baseClass = 'array-field'
 
@@ -91,7 +91,7 @@ const ArrayFieldType: React.FC<Props> = (props) => {
     showError,
     valid,
     value,
-  } = useField<number>({
+  } = useField<[]>({
     condition,
     hasRows: true,
     path,
@@ -111,20 +111,20 @@ const ArrayFieldType: React.FC<Props> = (props) => {
   )
 
   const duplicateRow = useCallback(
-    async (rowIndex: number) => {
+    (rowIndex: number) => {
       dispatchFields({ path, rowIndex, type: 'DUPLICATE_ROW' })
       setModified(true)
 
       setTimeout(() => {
-        scrollToID(`${path}-row-${rowIndex + 1}`)
+        scrollToID(`${path}-row-${rowIndex}`)
       }, 0)
     },
     [dispatchFields, path, setModified],
   )
 
   const removeRow = useCallback(
-    (rowIndex: number) => {
-      removeFieldRow({ path, rowIndex })
+    async (rowIndex: number) => {
+      await removeFieldRow({ path, rowIndex })
       setModified(true)
     },
     [removeFieldRow, path, setModified],
@@ -139,14 +139,14 @@ const ArrayFieldType: React.FC<Props> = (props) => {
   )
 
   const toggleCollapseAll = useCallback(
-    async (collapsed: boolean) => {
+    (collapsed: boolean) => {
       dispatchFields({ collapsed, path, setDocFieldPreferences, type: 'SET_ALL_ROWS_COLLAPSED' })
     },
     [dispatchFields, path, setDocFieldPreferences],
   )
 
   const setCollapse = useCallback(
-    async (rowID: string, collapsed: boolean) => {
+    (rowID: string, collapsed: boolean) => {
       dispatchFields({ collapsed, path, rowID, setDocFieldPreferences, type: 'SET_ROW_COLLAPSED' })
     },
     [dispatchFields, path, setDocFieldPreferences],
@@ -274,11 +274,11 @@ const ArrayFieldType: React.FC<Props> = (props) => {
       {!readOnly && !hasMaxRows && (
         <Button
           buttonStyle="icon-label"
+          className={`${baseClass}__add-row`}
           icon="plus"
           iconPosition="left"
           iconStyle="with-border"
-          onClick={() => addRow(value)}
-          className={`${baseClass}__add-row`}
+          onClick={() => addRow(value?.length || 0)}
         >
           {t('addLabel', { label: getTranslation(labels.singular, i18n) })}
         </Button>
diff --git a/packages/payload/src/admin/components/forms/field-types/Blocks/index.tsx b/packages/payload/src/admin/components/forms/field-types/Blocks/index.tsx
index b886cf0b3..b30b3529b 100644
--- a/packages/payload/src/admin/components/forms/field-types/Blocks/index.tsx
+++ b/packages/payload/src/admin/components/forms/field-types/Blocks/index.tsx
@@ -90,7 +90,7 @@ const BlocksField: React.FC<Props> = (props) => {
     showError,
     valid,
     value,
-  } = useField<number>({
+  } = useField<[]>({
     condition,
     hasRows: true,
     path,
@@ -99,7 +99,7 @@ const BlocksField: React.FC<Props> = (props) => {
 
   const addRow = useCallback(
     async (rowIndex: number, blockType: string) => {
-      addFieldRow({
+      await addFieldRow({
         data: {
           blockType,
         },
@@ -116,7 +116,7 @@ const BlocksField: React.FC<Props> = (props) => {
   )
 
   const duplicateRow = useCallback(
-    async (rowIndex: number) => {
+    (rowIndex: number) => {
       dispatchFields({ path, rowIndex, type: 'DUPLICATE_ROW' })
       setModified(true)
 
@@ -128,8 +128,8 @@ const BlocksField: React.FC<Props> = (props) => {
   )
 
   const removeRow = useCallback(
-    (rowIndex: number) => {
-      removeFieldRow({ path, rowIndex })
+    async (rowIndex: number) => {
+      await removeFieldRow({ path, rowIndex })
       setModified(true)
     },
     [path, removeFieldRow, setModified],
@@ -144,14 +144,14 @@ const BlocksField: React.FC<Props> = (props) => {
   )
 
   const toggleCollapseAll = useCallback(
-    async (collapsed: boolean) => {
+    (collapsed: boolean) => {
       dispatchFields({ collapsed, path, setDocFieldPreferences, type: 'SET_ALL_ROWS_COLLAPSED' })
     },
     [dispatchFields, path, setDocFieldPreferences],
   )
 
   const setCollapse = useCallback(
-    async (rowID: string, collapsed: boolean) => {
+    (rowID: string, collapsed: boolean) => {
       dispatchFields({ collapsed, path, rowID, setDocFieldPreferences, type: 'SET_ROW_COLLAPSED' })
     },
     [dispatchFields, path, setDocFieldPreferences],
@@ -297,7 +297,7 @@ const BlocksField: React.FC<Props> = (props) => {
           </DrawerToggler>
           <BlocksDrawer
             addRow={addRow}
-            addRowIndex={value}
+            addRowIndex={value?.length || 0}
             blocks={blocks}
             drawerSlug={drawerSlug}
             labels={labels}
diff --git a/packages/payload/src/fields/hooks/beforeChange/promise.ts b/packages/payload/src/fields/hooks/beforeChange/promise.ts
index 083cbacf7..82e84c46f 100644
--- a/packages/payload/src/fields/hooks/beforeChange/promise.ts
+++ b/packages/payload/src/fields/hooks/beforeChange/promise.ts
@@ -92,14 +92,9 @@ export const promise = async ({
 
     // Validate
     if (!skipValidationFromHere && field.validate) {
-      let valueToValidate = siblingData[field.name]
+      const valueToValidate = siblingData[field.name]
       let jsonError
 
-      if (['array', 'blocks'].includes(field.type)) {
-        const rows = siblingData[field.name]
-        valueToValidate = Array.isArray(rows) ? rows.length : 0
-      }
-
       if (field.type === 'json' && typeof siblingData[field.name] === 'string') {
         try {
           JSON.parse(siblingData[field.name] as string)
diff --git a/packages/payload/src/fields/validations.ts b/packages/payload/src/fields/validations.ts
index d44ec3c92..0a2f920a7 100644
--- a/packages/payload/src/fields/validations.ts
+++ b/packages/payload/src/fields/validations.ts
@@ -389,15 +389,17 @@ export const array: Validate<unknown, unknown, ArrayField> = (
   value,
   { maxRows, minRows, required, t },
 ) => {
-  if (minRows && value < minRows) {
+  const arrayLength = Array.isArray(value) ? value.length : 0
+
+  if (minRows && arrayLength < minRows) {
     return t('validation:requiresAtLeast', { count: minRows, label: t('rows') })
   }
 
-  if (maxRows && value > maxRows) {
+  if (maxRows && arrayLength > maxRows) {
     return t('validation:requiresNoMoreThan', { count: maxRows, label: t('rows') })
   }
 
-  if (!value && required) {
+  if (!arrayLength && required) {
     return t('validation:requiresAtLeast', { count: 1, label: t('row') })
   }
 
@@ -456,15 +458,17 @@ export const blocks: Validate<unknown, unknown, BlockField> = (
   value,
   { maxRows, minRows, required, t },
 ) => {
-  if (minRows && value < minRows) {
+  const arrayLength = Array.isArray(value) ? value.length : 0
+
+  if (minRows && arrayLength < minRows) {
     return t('validation:requiresAtLeast', { count: minRows, label: t('rows') })
   }
 
-  if (maxRows && value > maxRows) {
+  if (maxRows && arrayLength > maxRows) {
     return t('validation:requiresNoMoreThan', { count: maxRows, label: t('rows') })
   }
 
-  if (!value && required) {
+  if (!arrayLength && required) {
     return t('validation:requiresAtLeast', { count: 1, label: t('row') })
   }
 
diff --git a/test/fields/collections/Array/components/AddCustomBlocks/index.tsx b/test/fields/collections/Array/components/AddCustomBlocks/index.tsx
index afee09594..68f2c0ec0 100644
--- a/test/fields/collections/Array/components/AddCustomBlocks/index.tsx
+++ b/test/fields/collections/Array/components/AddCustomBlocks/index.tsx
@@ -10,7 +10,7 @@ export const AddCustomBlocks: React.FC = () => {
   const { addFieldRow, replaceFieldRow } = useForm()
   const { value } = useField({ path: 'customBlocks' })
 
-  const nextIndex = typeof value === 'number' ? value + 1 : 0
+  const nextIndex = Array.isArray(value) ? value.length : 0
 
   return (
     <div className={baseClass}>
@@ -56,7 +56,7 @@ export const AddCustomBlocks: React.FC = () => {
           }
           type="button"
         >
-          Replace Block {nextIndex - 1}
+          Replace Block {nextIndex}
         </button>
       </div>
     </div>