diff --git a/packages/ui/src/elements/Autosave/index.tsx b/packages/ui/src/elements/Autosave/index.tsx
index 54628cc8c7..c9737eb963 100644
--- a/packages/ui/src/elements/Autosave/index.tsx
+++ b/packages/ui/src/elements/Autosave/index.tsx
@@ -6,6 +6,8 @@ import { dequal } from 'dequal/lite'
 import { reduceFieldsToValues, versionDefaults } from 'payload/shared'
 import React, { useDeferredValue, useEffect, useRef, useState } from 'react'
 
+import type { OnSaveContext } from '../../views/Edit/index.js'
+
 import {
   useAllFormFields,
   useForm,
@@ -45,7 +47,6 @@ export const Autosave: React.FC<Props> = ({ id, collection, global: globalDoc })
 
   const {
     docConfig,
-    incrementVersionCount,
     lastUpdateTime,
     mostRecentVersionIsAutosaved,
     setMostRecentVersionIsAutosaved,
@@ -149,15 +150,14 @@ export const Autosave: React.FC<Props> = ({ id, collection, global: globalDoc })
             submitted && !valid && versionsConfig?.drafts && versionsConfig?.drafts?.validate
 
           if (!skipSubmission && modifiedRef.current && url) {
-            const result = await submit<{
-              incrementVersionCount: boolean
-            }>({
+            const result = await submit<any, OnSaveContext>({
               acceptValues: {
                 overrideLocalChanges: false,
               },
               action: url,
               context: {
-                incrementVersionCount: false,
+                getDocPermissions: false,
+                incrementVersionCount: !mostRecentVersionIsAutosaved,
               },
               disableFormWhileProcessing: false,
               disableSuccessStatus: true,
@@ -169,7 +169,6 @@ export const Autosave: React.FC<Props> = ({ id, collection, global: globalDoc })
             })
 
             if (result && result?.res?.ok && !mostRecentVersionIsAutosaved) {
-              incrementVersionCount()
               setMostRecentVersionIsAutosaved(true)
               setUnpublishedVersionCount((prev) => prev + 1)
             }
diff --git a/packages/ui/src/forms/Form/types.ts b/packages/ui/src/forms/Form/types.ts
index b62c8a8822..f8eef3e606 100644
--- a/packages/ui/src/forms/Form/types.ts
+++ b/packages/ui/src/forms/Form/types.ts
@@ -16,6 +16,20 @@ export type Preferences = {
   [key: string]: unknown
 }
 
+export type FormOnSuccess<T = unknown, C = Record<string, unknown>> = (
+  json: T,
+  options?: {
+    /**
+     * Arbitrary context passed to the onSuccess callback.
+     */
+    context?: C
+    /**
+     * Form state at the time of the request used to retrieve the JSON response.
+     */
+    formState?: FormState
+  },
+) => Promise<FormState | void> | void
+
 export type FormProps = {
   beforeSubmit?: ((args: { formState: FormState }) => Promise<FormState>)[]
   children?: React.ReactNode
@@ -54,16 +68,7 @@ export type FormProps = {
   log?: boolean
   onChange?: ((args: { formState: FormState; submitted?: boolean }) => Promise<FormState>)[]
   onSubmit?: (fields: FormState, data: Data) => void
-  onSuccess?: (
-    json: unknown,
-    options?: {
-      /**
-       * Arbitrary context passed to the onSuccess callback.
-       */
-      context?: Record<string, unknown>
-      formState?: FormState
-    },
-  ) => Promise<FormState | void> | void
+  onSuccess?: FormOnSuccess
   redirect?: string
   submitted?: boolean
   uuid?: string
@@ -79,14 +84,14 @@ export type FormProps = {
     }
 )
 
-export type SubmitOptions<T = Record<string, unknown>> = {
+export type SubmitOptions<C = Record<string, unknown>> = {
   acceptValues?: AcceptValues
   action?: string
   /**
    * @experimental - Note: this property is experimental and may change in the future. Use at your own discretion.
    * If you want to pass additional data to the onSuccess callback, you can use this context object.
    */
-  context?: T
+  context?: C
   /**
    * When true, will disable the form while it is processing.
    * @default true
@@ -108,14 +113,14 @@ export type SubmitOptions<T = Record<string, unknown>> = {
 
 export type DispatchFields = React.Dispatch<any>
 
-export type Submit = <T extends Record<string, unknown>>(
-  options?: SubmitOptions<T>,
+export type Submit = <T extends Response, C extends Record<string, unknown>>(
+  options?: SubmitOptions<C>,
   e?: React.FormEvent<HTMLFormElement>,
 ) => Promise</**
  * @experimental - Note: the `{ res: ... }` return type is experimental and may change in the future. Use at your own discretion.
  * Returns the form state and the response from the server.
  */
-{ formState?: FormState; res: Response } | void>
+{ formState?: FormState; res: T } | void>
 
 export type ValidateForm = () => Promise<boolean>
 
diff --git a/packages/ui/src/providers/DocumentInfo/types.ts b/packages/ui/src/providers/DocumentInfo/types.ts
index 4d8d6404c2..cccfe085bd 100644
--- a/packages/ui/src/providers/DocumentInfo/types.ts
+++ b/packages/ui/src/providers/DocumentInfo/types.ts
@@ -14,6 +14,8 @@ import type {
 
 import React from 'react'
 
+import type { GetDocPermissions } from './useGetDocPermissions.js'
+
 export type DocumentInfoProps = {
   readonly action?: string
   readonly AfterDocument?: React.ReactNode
@@ -57,7 +59,7 @@ export type DocumentInfoContext = {
     isLocked: boolean
     user: ClientUser | number | string
   } | null>
-  getDocPermissions: (data?: Data) => Promise<void>
+  getDocPermissions: GetDocPermissions
   getDocPreferences: () => Promise<DocumentPreferences>
   incrementVersionCount: () => void
   isInitializing: boolean
diff --git a/packages/ui/src/providers/DocumentInfo/useGetDocPermissions.tsx b/packages/ui/src/providers/DocumentInfo/useGetDocPermissions.tsx
index 14fdfbed3e..defcff8433 100644
--- a/packages/ui/src/providers/DocumentInfo/useGetDocPermissions.tsx
+++ b/packages/ui/src/providers/DocumentInfo/useGetDocPermissions.tsx
@@ -6,6 +6,8 @@ import React from 'react'
 import { hasSavePermission as getHasSavePermission } from '../../utilities/hasSavePermission.js'
 import { isEditing as getIsEditing } from '../../utilities/isEditing.js'
 
+export type GetDocPermissions = (data?: Data) => Promise<void>
+
 export const useGetDocPermissions = ({
   id,
   api,
@@ -30,7 +32,7 @@ export const useGetDocPermissions = ({
   setDocPermissions: React.Dispatch<React.SetStateAction<SanitizedDocumentPermissions>>
   setHasPublishPermission: React.Dispatch<React.SetStateAction<boolean>>
   setHasSavePermission: React.Dispatch<React.SetStateAction<boolean>>
-}) =>
+}): GetDocPermissions =>
   React.useCallback(
     async (data: Data) => {
       const params = {
@@ -111,5 +113,18 @@ export const useGetDocPermissions = ({
         )
       }
     },
-    [serverURL, api, id, permissions, i18n.language, locale, collectionSlug, globalSlug],
+    [
+      locale,
+      id,
+      collectionSlug,
+      globalSlug,
+      serverURL,
+      api,
+      i18n.language,
+      setDocPermissions,
+      setHasSavePermission,
+      setHasPublishPermission,
+      permissions?.collections,
+      permissions?.globals,
+    ],
   )
diff --git a/packages/ui/src/views/Edit/index.tsx b/packages/ui/src/views/Edit/index.tsx
index 0fc404f0f7..ed0421cced 100644
--- a/packages/ui/src/views/Edit/index.tsx
+++ b/packages/ui/src/views/Edit/index.tsx
@@ -1,13 +1,14 @@
 /* eslint-disable react-compiler/react-compiler -- TODO: fix */
 'use client'
 
-import type { ClientUser, DocumentViewClientProps } from 'payload'
+import type { ClientUser, DocumentViewClientProps, FormState } from 'payload'
 
 import { useRouter, useSearchParams } from 'next/navigation.js'
 import { formatAdminURL } from 'payload/shared'
 import React, { Fragment, useCallback, useEffect, useMemo, useRef, useState } from 'react'
 
 import type { FormProps } from '../../forms/Form/index.js'
+import type { FormOnSuccess } from '../../forms/Form/types.js'
 import type { LockedState } from '../../utilities/buildFormState.js'
 
 import { DocumentControls } from '../../elements/DocumentControls/index.js'
@@ -42,6 +43,11 @@ import './index.scss'
 
 const baseClass = 'collection-edit'
 
+export type OnSaveContext = {
+  getDocPermissions?: boolean
+  incrementVersionCount?: boolean
+}
+
 // This component receives props only on _pages_
 // When rendered within a drawer, props are empty
 // This is solely to support custom edit views which get server-rendered
@@ -256,13 +262,12 @@ export function DefaultEditView({
     user?.id,
   ])
 
-  const onSave = useCallback<FormProps['onSuccess']>(
+  const onSave: FormOnSuccess<any, OnSaveContext> = useCallback(
     async (json, options) => {
       const { context, formState } = options || {}
 
       const controller = handleAbortRef(abortOnSaveRef)
 
-      // @ts-expect-error can ignore
       const document = json?.doc || json?.result
 
       const updatedAt = document?.updatedAt || new Date().toISOString()
@@ -316,7 +321,9 @@ export function DefaultEditView({
         resetUploadEdits()
       }
 
-      await getDocPermissions(json)
+      if (context?.getDocPermissions !== false) {
+        await getDocPermissions(json)
+      }
 
       if (id || globalSlug) {
         const docPreferences = await getDocPreferences()
diff --git a/test/form-state/collections/Autosave/index.tsx b/test/form-state/collections/Autosave/index.tsx
index 939b4c463d..51dd8aad41 100644
--- a/test/form-state/collections/Autosave/index.tsx
+++ b/test/form-state/collections/Autosave/index.tsx
@@ -18,7 +18,6 @@ export const AutosavePostsCollection: CollectionConfig = {
       hooks: {
         beforeChange: [({ data }) => data?.title],
       },
-      label: 'Computed Title',
     },
   ],
   versions: {
diff --git a/test/form-state/e2e.spec.ts b/test/form-state/e2e.spec.ts
index ac4fd3e6cc..cb0ec2ca0f 100644
--- a/test/form-state/e2e.spec.ts
+++ b/test/form-state/e2e.spec.ts
@@ -10,6 +10,7 @@ import { addArrayRowAsync, removeArrayRow } from 'helpers/e2e/fields/array/index
 import { addBlock } from 'helpers/e2e/fields/blocks/index.js'
 import { waitForAutoSaveToRunAndComplete } from 'helpers/e2e/waitForAutoSaveToRunAndComplete.js'
 import * as path from 'path'
+import { wait } from 'payload/shared'
 import { fileURLToPath } from 'url'
 
 import type { Config, Post } from './payload-types.js'
@@ -330,6 +331,94 @@ test.describe('Form State', () => {
     ).toHaveValue('This is a computed value.')
   })
 
+  test('should fetch new doc permissions after save', async () => {
+    const doc = await createPost({ title: 'Initial Title' })
+    await page.goto(postsUrl.edit(doc.id))
+    const titleField = page.locator('#field-title')
+    await expect(titleField).toBeEnabled()
+
+    await assertNetworkRequests(
+      page,
+      `${serverURL}/api/posts/access/${doc.id}`,
+      async () => {
+        await titleField.fill('Updated Title')
+        await wait(500)
+        await page.click('#action-save', { delay: 100 })
+      },
+      {
+        allowedNumberOfRequests: 2,
+        minimumNumberOfRequests: 2,
+        timeout: 3000,
+      },
+    )
+
+    await assertNetworkRequests(
+      page,
+      `${serverURL}/api/posts/access/${doc.id}`,
+      async () => {
+        await titleField.fill('Updated Title 2')
+        await wait(500)
+        await page.click('#action-save', { delay: 100 })
+      },
+      {
+        minimumNumberOfRequests: 2,
+        allowedNumberOfRequests: 2,
+        timeout: 3000,
+      },
+    )
+  })
+
+  test('autosave - should not fetch new doc permissions on every autosave', async () => {
+    const doc = await payload.create({
+      collection: autosavePostsSlug,
+      data: {
+        title: 'Initial Title',
+      },
+    })
+
+    await page.goto(autosavePostsUrl.edit(doc.id))
+    const titleField = page.locator('#field-title')
+    await expect(titleField).toBeEnabled()
+
+    await assertNetworkRequests(
+      page,
+      `${serverURL}/api/${autosavePostsSlug}/access/${doc.id}`,
+      async () => {
+        await titleField.fill('Updated Title')
+      },
+      {
+        allowedNumberOfRequests: 0,
+        timeout: 3000,
+      },
+    )
+
+    await assertNetworkRequests(
+      page,
+      `${serverURL}/api/${autosavePostsSlug}/access/${doc.id}`,
+      async () => {
+        await titleField.fill('Updated Title Again')
+      },
+      {
+        allowedNumberOfRequests: 0,
+        timeout: 3000,
+      },
+    )
+
+    // save manually and ensure the permissions are fetched again
+    await assertNetworkRequests(
+      page,
+      `${serverURL}/api/${autosavePostsSlug}/access/${doc.id}`,
+      async () => {
+        await page.click('#action-save', { delay: 100 })
+      },
+      {
+        allowedNumberOfRequests: 2,
+        minimumNumberOfRequests: 2,
+        timeout: 3000,
+      },
+    )
+  })
+
   test('autosave - should render computed values after autosave', async () => {
     await page.goto(autosavePostsUrl.create)
     const titleField = page.locator('#field-title')